Friday, June 27, 2008

Out of the Closet

Is it possible to have a civil and intelligent dialogue about anything these days, but especially about gay rights? I hope so.

Attorney Stephen C. Clark (a gay man) and I (president of the conservative Sutherland Institute) had a private email conversation over the course of a year to 18 months about gay rights and, with all the current hoopla over California's decision to allow legal same-sex marriage, we felt it might be appropriate to turn our private conversations into public ones.

This dialogue is marked by is raw and honest. We discussed gay marriage, civil unions, sexual orientation, hate crime laws, social integration, the science of homosexuality, and just some plain old-fashioned argumentation.

I am sure you'll let us know how we did!

Here are PDF links (it is a long dialogue so we broke it into three parts). You also can find them on the Sutherland home page at

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Happy Reading!


justandholy said...

I've read through most of this dialogue and it certainly is "raw and honest," no holds barred.

If you really want to understand the basic intellectual arguments on both sides regarding gay relationships and how they pertain to public policy, I highly encourage you to read this. These guys get really personal and still have a civil debate. It may change your way of thinking about the issue in many ways.

Jobu said...

Do you guys address lesbian polygamy? I could really get into that.

Jason The said...


I'm still picking through the conversations, but so far, this is quite enlightening and insightful.

Jobu said...

I read all three parts.

I thought it was so gay.